Arizona Secretary of State responds to Trump call to Georgia Secretary of State
In KOLD interview, Hobbs calls call “appalling”
TUCSON, Ariz. (KOLD News 13) -
A phone call from President Trump to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger - himself a Trump supporter - is turning up the heat on a simmering political battle.
In the recording, obtained first by the Washington Post, President Trump is heard pushing Raffensperger to “find more votes” for Trump.
Arizona’s secretary of state told Kold she’s received no such calls - but that doesn’t mean the implications haven’t been on her mind.
”I was outraged, it’s appalling,” said Secretary Katie Hobbs. “It doesn’t matter who you are - even the president of the United States. You cannot call someone and ask them to overturn the election results - the results of a valid, fair election, just because you’re upset by the results.”
Hobbs says Secretary Raffensperger responded just as she would hope any secretary of state would, standing up for results from his state’s multiple counts - and recounts - when the president pushed him to overturn Joe Biden’s win.
On the recording, President Trump is heard saying, ”I mean, they’re all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms law firms, etc. and even if you cut ‘em in half, cut ‘em in half and cut ‘em in half, again, it’s more votes than we need.”
To which Raffensperger responded, “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.”
Hobbs says she would have said the same for Arizona’s election workers and process.
”It was free of irregularities, it was free of fraud and the courts have shown that over and over again,” said Hobbs.
Yet, Hobbs told us her office is still being bombarded with calls and emails alleging fraud. The FBI is investigating threats against her and a list of other election officials across the country.
”I have a security detail now. Didn’t think I’d still be dealing with this two months after the election.”
Hobbs said she is “utterly confident” in Arizona’s results, and that keeps her going, despite threats against her and her family.
“I’m not going anywhere, I’m going to be on the ballot in 2022,” Hobbs said. ”If I let this detract me from continuing to run for this office, which I feel I have conducted with integrity, then they win, and they don’t deserve to win.”
But she *does believe long-term damage has been done - and Elections may not ever be the same. Her hope now is to bring people across all parties to the table for a discussion on protecting elections and preserving democracy.
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